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Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.09 19:30:00 -
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Ping Pang Pong wrote:Lord Zim wrote:March rabbit wrote:
[quote=March rabbit]And when your 300-500+ drake fleet is sitting outside of a station nothing below this numbers can get your out. Before this "fix" there was conter to blobs - SB gangs. Not it is not exists.
SBs aren't nerfed, they're changed back to what they had before CCP ****** with missiles etc, which means you have to actually think a bit before lobbing bombs, instead of essentially doing a 256 man bombing run which is able to put aeons into armor in one volley. . Isn't it rather strange that CCP steps in and changes bombs directly after CFC gets an entire drake fleet knocked out by an SB run? I mean, bombs have been the way they were for years. Suddenly it is used against the goons and *ring ring* the batphone goes off and CCP gets to work to make sure the CFC isn't hit again by this mechanic that had been in game for years. Sad really. I wouldn't be surprised if we had the GM's stepping in and nuking SoCo ships for the CFC like they did for the goons during a wardec a while back. 10 minute petition answer, direct out of game communications with CCP devs, opposing forces ships start to go *pop* out of the blue. Nepotism in its truest form. and @ the above poster: It is hard to combat both the CFC and CCP at the same time. It seems that every time someone gets a leg up there are changes that get rolled out which specifically cater to what the goons are up to. A few things CCP has done to directly intervene in the game and support the Goons/CFC: -Titan tracking nerf while CFC raids Raiden -Wardec changes only after goons get dogpiled. They had done a dog pile a few weeks earlier on another alliance, but no one seemed to care until it was the goons on the receiving end. -GM's nuking an opposing corp/alliance's ships during a war with the goons And the most recent: Bomb changes put in place immediately after a CFC drake fleet goes byebye. There are probably countless other times that things like these have happened, but these are ones I can think of off the top of my head. While I am too lazy to find the articles, there are plenty of reputable MMO gaming sites (MMORPG.com, Massively.com etc) that have spoken out and reported on this happening. It still doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few people working in CCP that are or "were" goons or the facts of mechanics being changed out of no where as soon as it benefits the goons.
Posting on my main to say that this man has heavily invested in shares of a tinfoil supplier. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.10 01:32:00 -
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Apostate Lucius wrote:Anyone who loves the game would fight against such an extreme action, no matter your loyalties or allegiances.
This right here is the key sticking point. All these people who are demanding a tech nerf because they don't have any pretty much don't love eve.
Meanwhile, the people who do have Tech who have been demanding from the start that Tech needs to be fixed probably love eve and want to see it grow. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.10 01:40:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:SetrakDark wrote:lol hisec forum warriors still think income wins wars I like how you downplay how important money is when it comes to wars. Made me laugh out loud.
Income really doesn't win a war, dude. It can help, or make things easier, but you can win a war with a minimum of funds if you are smart.
But Goons started in the game with Supercaps and Tech Moons. They certainly didn't start with Rifters and a few friends. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.10 02:57:00 -
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Garreth Vlox wrote:Marconus Orion wrote:SetrakDark wrote:lol hisec forum warriors still think income wins wars I like how you downplay how important money is when it comes to wars. Made me laugh out loud. I like how you downplay the importance of people actually logging in and getting in fleet and waiting for hours for a fight that never happens, and then log in the next day and do it all over again. Money is meaningless without a fleet to back it up.
It's true., fleets win fights. Isk has almost nothing to do with it. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 01:31:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forestwho wrote:Mittens himselve said to me he wanted to rush delve because of the standard low activity in summers. This is kinda an eve fact. Attacking is harder than defending in current sov system, therefor blitzkrieg strategie without gudfights when your opponment is weak and outnumbered...... Hes a exellent strategist i must admit Yeah I'm sure that The Mittani tells you everything
Whispering sweet nothings in his ear. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 11:54:00 -
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Max50 wrote:I think people are missing the point when it comes to think of changes from CCP.
CCP will make changes to keep the game running,this doesnt mean that it will actually make the game better for all players.
Anyone remembers the days of NC?How loved they were together...brofist etc?The one day supers got boosted and suddenly the ruskies that had lots of them pull the numbers in subcaps and ofc outnumbered NC's supercaps.NC fell,propably because of the combination of doing over and over the same thing(defending long boring gaming hours etc over and over) and because a few game changes gave the edge to someone else. Time passes and the game gets static again.Goons try...whatever they try but they get stomped over and over in a boring wall of supercarriers,virtually invicible if you didnt had more supercaps.Then the first supercap rebalancing(nerf for onwers like me,fair balancing for the rest) but again that wasnt enough since the blap titans appeared. Blap titans made it possible for a single alliance like raiden to defend succesfully against a coalition of alliances.The game became static again since CFC couldnt stand getting blapped on a daily and boring basis so a next new thing should come to change this.So now we have the new "rebalanced" titans.
Although i participated in opposite side of goons,i cannot say that the game isnt changed for good.
Players have 3-4 options:
1)either join the "winning side"
2)start crying more than goons did about everything 3)get organised
4)adapt.
Crying about it isnt an option.Like any mmorpg,EVE has to give the players the carrot to keep the rabbits running behind it.Thats how this game works.CCP chose tech to keep a big part of its memberbase running behind something they think is important. But the fact is that it isnt important if you dont let it be.Adapt or die i guess.
I use to make ISK by doing lvl4 missions in empire and later ratting plexing in -1.0 systems.I thought that i knew my **** untill i tried lvl5 missions.Doing them propably not only gives more ISK,it gives you a ISK you dont know what to do so you just stop farming.I am not doing wallet show off here,since i am certain some other guy will tell me that he is better than me and makes even more by ...lets say trading. Always adapt,always look for some new for ISK making,for manufacturing or for PVPing.Its what makes the game interesting.
CFC will die in the future,just like BOB died,just like the ruskie coalition died,just like NC died after so many wars etc etc.
Death of powerblocks is what keeps this game ticking.The problem is what you or me g
The CFC may die like BoB did, maybe, at some far point in the future. But so far Goonswarm has been destroyed a few times and each time we come back far stronger than before.
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Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:01:00 -
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forestwho wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.
Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk isk to be bottled up untill that time
Ring mining is much much more content heavy than fixing some numbers in the database. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find out. Personally I'm looking forward to when Ring Mining comes out and isn't broken. (I don't think CCP can get it right the first go around) I know lots and lots of Goons are also looking forward to ring mining as well.
We are all for expanding gameplay, and not at all for limiting it. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:26:00 -
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Onictus wrote:http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/titan
LOL who sang it so I can, throw them some isk. That was hilarios.
I'm guessing Sindel Pellion of TEST. I'm glad you are taking losing all your space so well. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:31:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:baltec1 wrote:forestwho wrote:Like i said, i can pull out numbers out my ass aswel, im not saying they are right, im just saying his numbers were more wrong than mine This is different to the NC and its colossal income how? LOL NC died due to botted and rmted supercarriers that were buffed prior to invasion. So no NC did't die because grunts mobilized and because of "effort"
Do you have any evidence of botting and/or RMTing? |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:42:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:baltec1 wrote:forestwho wrote:Like i said, i can pull out numbers out my ass aswel, im not saying they are right, im just saying his numbers were more wrong than mine This is different to the NC and its colossal income how? LOL NC died due to botted and rmted supercarriers that were buffed prior to invasion. So no NC did't die because grunts mobilized and because of "effort" Do you have any evidence of botting and/or RMTing? Yes there were a lot of documented cases of botes in drone region, that belonged to the solar fleet and their pets.
Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC. |
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Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:05:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC.
NO ? I remember shooting SOLAR abbadons in geminate so stop posting because you have no clue. They may be fighintg now but not when OLD NC falled.
Really? Do you have any evidence to back this up, faceless person?
Quote:Red Alliance offshoot, consisting largely of the corps Solar Dragons and Russian SOBR, and led by the former leader of RA, MACTEP. SDG and RUSSO had been focused largely on fighting in the drone regions, while the rest of RA cared little about it; there was some drama, and those two corps split. Relations between RA and SF remain friendly (SF still uses the RA killboard, for example).
Solar Fleet made a lot of waves by allying with Intrepid Crossing and Ethereal Dawn while they were fighting Red Alliance and many of the smaller members of the Northern Coalition. Solar Fleet's involvement caused Red Alliance and Majesta Empire to pull out of the war to avoid conflict with Solar Fleet. Solar Fleet likely did this to ensure that they had allies in the Drone Regions in the event that the NC invades the Drone Regions.
Compounding the awkwardness, Solar Fleet has apparently allied with AAA, KenZoku, and Triumvirate while attempting to seize control of Geminate away from Wildly Inappropriate. Since WI is a member of the Northern Coalition, this put them at war with TCF, RAZOR, and many other alliances also blue to us. As of August 2009 they are still fighting NC and have skirmished in southern Geminate and northern Cobalt Edge close to Tenal. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:16:00 -
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Ping Pang Pong wrote:
I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have.
I would say this falls in line with you not knowing what you are talking about, noted NPC forums poster Fing Fang Foom. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:17:00 -
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Xython wrote:Twulf wrote:Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons. What's that? Why yes, we are better at EVE than you, thank you for noticing. :)
Having friends in this social game owns, doesn't it? I think a lot of the posters in this thread could use some friends, because clearly they haven't got any. |
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